Very funny yet realistic REMIX song on Nepal and Nepali filthy politicians

NEPE,"So you want me not to reveal your identity out of high ideals ? Alright. "

And on with the threat again. You sound more like Prachandey and them peopals than a fresh face with new ideals.he he

So far enjoying the discussion, Rahuldai, Bathroom and Mr truth have pointed out some important issues. But I like the last sentence of Captain saheb 'In politics you have to be able to take the mud thrown at you (and throw it back) and I'd say my good friend Bathroom Coffee is providing free training to those in Sajha' Good one captain sab, as usal

As Captain mentioned 'the mainstream political parties have done poorly when it comes to addressing the problems supposedly created by the Panchayat' I would also primarily blame these Political leaders for everything going on in Nepal.

Let me not only write who did what when and why. The main question is solution and  to get the answer where did we really go wrong? Once again its politicians. Ive not seen, not even a single NETA who has VISIONS, a wider vision to create a NEW NEPAL. Rather than political its economical situation of the country that is going downhill. Yes, I know economic and political matters are interrelated.

Why the Economy of Nepal is worsening? why? when we talk about economy how can we not talk about tourism. Have Nepal done enough homework to attract toursits? Not at all!!!! i think merely 0.5 million (thats 5 lakhs) tourists visited Nepal in 2007 (highest no, in history of Nepal), but I guarantee Nepal can attract at least 20 millions a year within next 5 years if we really pull our socks. As Karna Shakya mentioned in his book 'SOCH' Nepal can be like Mecca of Buddhists. What has NTB (Nepal Tourism Board)  done to attract religious tourists esp from Japan, China, Korea, Thalina, Vietnam, Mongolia, Burma, Sri Lanka.

India could be another DUDH DINE GAAI if we work well, billion dollar Bollywood  industry is next door and, shame on us we had not been able to encash them. They spend millions for just one song to shoot  in some small Alps near Switzerland, the OUTCOME, you can find every Indian tourists in Swiss streets. I was shocked to know Indians were one of the highest no of tourists visiting Switzerland. During my travel around Europe Ive never seen Indian flags in  any some big-small hotels/restaurants but in Switzerland u can find in every other building.

And why cant Nepal organise a cricekt match between India and Pakistan (or Australia), surely cricket frenzy fans like me will have good time but more than that Nepal will be all over Indian media for whole month, I dont have to tell you Cricekt means religion in India.

Well well, lets say 20 millions tourists come Nepal, how would Nepali airlines handle it :-( hmmmmm the question which Ive not found answer is, why why and why NAC (RNAC) is doing well all the airlines flying to Nepal are progressing and every new airline comapny wants to go to kathamndu, why only our NAC cant handle even its two aircarfts? I think flying to Nepal as a national carrier it can easily turn to profitable business.You have customers, you have demands, you have monopoly (only international airline of Nepal) still  you fail..... I just want a simple answer why cant run it smoothly. Same is with the banks, every private  bank is progressing then why should state run Nepal Bank and Banijya bank have to hire foreign managers?

Tell me please, a person in Nepali politics who has ideas to change Nepal, ideas that are practical and could be implemented...(not like Singapore in a day)......

This much for now but BE RIGHT BACK

(Please mind grammatical and spelling errors--I just typed and typed)

And let me add you one more point, Economic Frustration is one of the major factors building the present political chaos and uncertainty. Most of the youngsters have nothing to do, no jobs, no means to survive. Everyone wants to leave country ( be it Amrika, Japan, Middle East or wherever). Yestai chha hamro Desh......

Cant we do something for our country ?

yes, raise funds to assasinate prachada and babua bhaiya.
Politicians will come back to their senses and everything will be fine for good.

Amazing Bro,

 

For a longest time, I thought our politicians and nobody else are to be blamed for all the things that have gone bad.

 

Of late, it has dawned on me that that’s not true.

 

Two clues led me to it.

 

One, no matter how political pundits criticize this or that events, there is not really a single blunder on part of our politicians that can be traced back as a “big bang” of our bad days. Everything is a continuum of the past. They just could not break that continuum.

 

Then-- this one is subtle but very serious-- who are the politicians anyway? I mean in terms of idea and action.

 

They are us.

 

Our politicians are functional extension of, let’s connect the dots, professional intellectuals like whoever we want to give as example and amateur intellectuals like I, you and BathroomCoffee.

 

(Of course BathroomCoffee is going to deny any role and responsibility because he has done nothing except badmouthing in Sajha his entire life. But here is the thing. Bathroom’s nears and dears are his functional extension and our politicians are functional extension of them in turn. Admit it, we all are part of our corrupt and lazy system.)

 

So, I think vision is not what is lacking. If it was vision, King Gyanendra had a great vision.

 

I even dare say we don’t need vision. We don’t have to have politicians with vision. A stable political framework and stability is sufficient. Nepali people, without a single paisa and help from the government, can and will change Nepal. Nepali people’s proven entrepreneurship (just look how hard they are working in the country and wherever they could go) and the leveling effect of free competition will do that.

 

So stability is the key. When and if we could reach there, all the good things will follow. Or so I think.

 

 

Nepe

Nepe bro,
point noted
I have never denied that we r not responsible for present condition in Nepal. Yes we are and everyone has contributed more or less, that of course, including you, me, Bathroom and everyone.

Despite that, once again I have to differ with you in one point, regarding -VISION-, vision for me, means those practical ones. The real visions. Not just in paper.You have written, 'there is not really a single blunder on part of our politicians that can be traced back as a “big bang” of our bad days. Everything is a continuum of the past. They just could not break that continuum'. But do u really think they could have DONE BETTER?

Students study, farmers farm, players play for the country, singers sing and entertain us, actors dance around and make money (indeed, we love it), businessmen keep busy in their trade, engineers construct buildings, doctors look after patients but what do POLITICIANS do in Nepal?

As I said, they dont have vision but I also admit that i ve gone farther this time, at first we need stability (as u have suggested), we lack many things. Political leaders have had no contribution after 90s movement. After JANA ANDOLAN -I nothing has improved in Nepal drastically. If I have to write down something I would pick only three things Democracy, Development of Media (Print, Audio, Video, Music) and Internationalism (People started to internationalise, came abroad to study, work, migrate now which is backbone of Nepalese economy- Remittance), Do u see any contribution of Netas there?

One final thing to ask, Nepe bro, do you really think 'we donot need vision'?

---this much------before I take another coffee--.---

 

>..Nepe bro, do you really think 'we do not need vision'?

 

Yes and No.

 

If vision means something yet to be discovered (something other than which we already know/desire), then No, because we can not have it in the first place.

 

If vision means organizing all the ideas already floating in various public domains, so to speak, and put them to action, then Yes, we need it. I and you would be on the same page here.

 

;-)

 

Nepe

Yes Nepe bro
first point, (60%+40%) second point...thats my personal view hai.

Nepe,"For a longest time, I thought our politicians and nobody else are to be blamed for all the things that have gone bad."

Politicians and people who are in charge of running the country are the ones to blame. They did not do their jobs properly. So they are to blame. 

 

Nepe,"One, no matter how political pundits criticize this or that events, there is not really a single blunder on part of our politicians that can be traced back as a “big bang” of our bad days. Everything is a continuum of the past. They just could not break that continuum."

WHAT ? There is not a single blunder on part of our politicians that can be traced back as a “big bang” of our bad days rey ? huh !!! Duh !! WTF Ahhhh uuuummmmm Maybe you are ..as always looking in the wrong area then ? ha ha ha Ummm Check all of the politicians foreign bank accounts maybe those will hold answers to the deplorable economy of Nepal. And if you are talking about societal infraction of Nepali culture.... hmmm THAT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE..THAT IS JUST BASIC HUMAN NATURE.... YOU CANNOT CHANGE THAT. ANYWHERE YOU GO YOU WILL ALWAYS DISCRIMINATE PEOPLE WHO LOOK DIFFERENT THAN YOU AND YOU WILL BE DISCRIMINATED BY OTHERS WHO LOOK DIFFERENT THAN YOU. ITS JUST SIMPLE FACT OF LIFE. BUT BEING A POLITICIAN IN TRAINING NEPE HERE WOULD LIKE US TO BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CHANGE THIS. ha ha ha for example In India people from Manipur, Mizoram, and Nagaland will always make fun of your typical Indian. In Arab world Middle Easterns will always make fun of North Africans. In ENGLAND people from London will always make fun of anyone with cockney accent from the north. Here in US of A there sure are tons of them like North and South, black and white, immigrant non immigrant, redneck and metrosexual. SO FOR MR POLITICIAN TO SAY PROBLEM FROM THE PAST AND REST IS AT THAT IS ....HA HA HA EASY. IN THE CYCLE OF LIFE YOU WILL BE BOMBARDED WITH PROBLEMS(not just personal, political, economical) BUT ITS UP TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO SOLVE THEM(its their job). But our elected officials would rather gham tapera chia khanu in the AM and twaaat and chwaylaa in PM while nepal goes down the tubes.

 

Who are the politicians ? THEY ARE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE TRUSTED BY THE PEOPLE TO SERVE THEM. BUT ARE ALWAYS COMING UP SHORT IN CASE OF NEPAL. AND THEY ARE NOT US BUT OUR REPRESENTITIVE(WHO ALWAYS DECEIVES US WITH FANCY LANGUAGE OR BROKEN PROMISES).

 

Nepe,"Of course BathroomCoffee is going to deny any role and responsibility because he has done nothing except badmouthing in Sajha his entire life. But here is the thing. Bathroom’s nears and dears are his functional extension and our politicians are functional extension of them in turn."

ha ha ha I have done nothing but bad mouth others in Sajha my entire life rey ? ha ha ha WHAT THE FUG !!!! HERE COME SOOTHSAYER NEPE AGAIN WITH HIS HOCUS POCUS ASSUMPTION. HA HA HA NEPE YOU REALLY THINK I AM GOING TO COME HERE AND TELL YOU WHAT I HAVE AND HAVE NOT DONE FOR NEPAL IN A PUBLIC FORUM LIKE THIS ? HA HA HA AND WHY WOULD I DO THAT ? I DON'T NEED TO SHOW OFF OR IMPRESS ANYONE WHEREAS YOU ON THE OTHER HAND.... VERY MUCH NEED TO LET US KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE AND HAVE NOT DONE FOR NEPAL...... FOR YOU BUDDING POLITICAL CAREER. WHAT I DO FOR NEPAL IS MY BUSINESS NOT YOURS. BUT YOURS IS THE OTHER WAY AIN'T IT CAUSE YOU NEED TO LET THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW THAT YOU WERE PROTESTING IN FRONT OF UN BUILDING IN NYC FOR DOOUKWASHI IN NEPAL AND YOUR FUTURE POLITICL CAREER AIN'T IT . he he

 

Vision is not what is lacking rey ? ha ha ha Really ? So vision will solve the problems ? ha ha ha Ayo Ayo Pyar pyar pyar pyar

 

Nepe,"A stable political framework and stability is sufficient. Nepali people, without a single paisa and help from the government, can and will change Nepal. Nepali people’s proven entrepreneurship (just look how hard they are working in the country and wherever they could go) and the leveling effect of free competition will do that."

Woooo Hooo clap clap clap clap.... thats all your words ar good for and nothing else. But trust me your bhedaa's will totally buy into it. But then again I am not your your average Nepali bheda who will submit to your sweet talking therefore yer animosity towards me. he he

Bathroom coffee, to be very honest I like some of your points........they are quite logical....

Amazing,

I might cuss and swear a lot but would NEVER lead people on for personal benefit like Nepe. Ailey khoi tyo banner and protest in front of UN(living conditions for average Nepali is worse than two years ago) ? Cause he knows he will not be able to bear the fruits of his labor when the the gun toting maoist has held the entire nation hostage(tyasailey Kursii pauney chancesai chaina). Therefore no protest in front of UN. Khoi ta to Julus ? The only reason these guys were in front of the UN was because they thought they might be able to get a peice of the Pie when Gyaney Chor was forced out of Monarchy. Tara Maoist ley LWAPPA kwayo key garney bichara. he he

I AM STILL TICKED OFF AT THEM SELF PROCLAIMED SO CALLED REPUBLIC LEADERS AND SUPPORTERS FOR HANDING OVER THE COUNTRY IN A SILVER PLATTER TO THE MAOISTS.

INKALAAB ZINDAABAD REPUBLIC LEADERS AND SUPPORTERS SABAI BHAGAA BHAAG. KHOI TA TYO GADHA HARU.

 

Exactly Bathroom,

All the DOGS are same in Nepali politics, sabailai eutai gharmaa rakhera BOMB padkaaunu parne

My thoughts are in mid way of Nepe bro's and BC bro's

Nepe bro: It's interesting that you took exactly the opposite way than i did.Before I used to think like you do which is "polictics mirrors the society. But now I think its already timeto held these so called leaders accountable for many of the past deeds.


BC bro: I agree with you in many cases but you are not even leaving spaces to those people who being a politician or citizens are thinking good about the country and doing something (may have diff perspective than many over here).

 

Here, I would like to add one point, if Bathroom had expressed the same thing in a little different language it could have been a wonderful article.. at the same time I must disagree in some points, he is always trying to criticize Nepe bro, even though he is accurate in some points. Im not goin to point out those things coz everyone is different so is their opinions.

nepe guru,

there is right(peace) and wrong(conflict) and when thing is wrong people tend to analyze what could have been a right way or what went wrong. When thing is right it is irrevalent to mass how wrong made it right or why right was wrong, simple and that song is the reflection of that. ofcourse it could be a dose of prozac for intellectuals for their self satisfactory thesis, no argument here.

with making correction of 2 lakhs to 22, there is no moment to be proud of if you know the fact ( or you may be not in mood to advocate  revoking their citizenship). Here is an excerpt analysis by late harka gurung how inlflux of indians seemed to vanish in 90ties but they were not gone anywhere (by acquiring citizenship in highly dense hilly areas including kathmandu valley). And the cycle seems to repeat itself ( don't forget the citizenship vending machine this time)

 

Looking at the data by region, the number of Indian Citizens increased only in western Terai, western inner Terai, and Kathmandu valley. In Centeral terai, there was a drastic decrease in Indian Citizens, i.e., by half. The number of Indian Citizens declined by 84 percent in the mountains, 55.1 percent in hill, 35.6 percent in Terai, and 27.2 percent in inner Terai. According to the census data, only nine out of 75 districts saw an increase in Indian Citizens: Kathmandu, Bhaktapur, Dang, Chitwan, Kanchanpur, Kailali, Bardiya, Banke and Parsa. In all other districts their number declined.

The question up arises: was there any policy implemented or some events, which made Indian citizens, leave Nepal in large numbers during the decade 1981-1991? Two points of reference may be mentioned here. First, in 1987, Nepal tried an initial exercise to introduce a work permit system in Kathmandu Valley? This could not be implemented due to Indian objection. In fact, the number of Indian Citizens in Kathmandu Valley increased by 57.5 percent during the period in question. Secondly, the economic blockade implemented by the Indian government during 1988/89 led to disruption of normal relationship between the two countries. However, the population census was carried out in June 1991, and the economic blockade had already been lifted with the restoration of democracy in 1990. Soon after the relationship between the two countries had even the democratic restoration been to be qualified by the euphemism of ‘common rivers’.

The dichotomy of the census data showing a decrease in Indian Citizens, on the one hand, and the obvious influx of Indian citizens, on the other, can be resolved with one conclusion. The reason for the drastic decline of Indians in Nepal is not that they have returned home but that they have acquired Nepali citizenship. For example, the largest reduction in the number of Indian citizens in Jhapa (8154) and Morang (5061), where more citizenship certificates –256, 257 and 288,897 respectively-were distributed. There is very little variation among sources on the number of Indians acquiring Nepali citizenship: 57.7 percent in the 1983 migration report and 62.8 percent according to official Indian records. What is distressing in this context, is that political parties are following their own narrow agenda even on a subject as critical as citizenship. The Dhanapati Upadhyay Commission (1994) setup by the UML government had the Congress member boycotting and the Sadbhavana Party member dissenting, while the Mahanta Thakur Committee (1995) setup by the Congress did not have a UML member. Therefore, the Citizenship Bill-2000, submitted without a broad consensus, is a challenge to the country’s national interest.

Maverick-jyu,

 

I would still like to believe that you and I are still on the same page.

 

Let me present it this way. What does “holding politicians accountable” mean ? Is it taking a moral position only ? Or is it an action or commitment to it ?

 

If it is action or commitment of action, then this definitely differentiate politicians (they) from us.

 

If it is just a word and no action, then we are them by allowing them to do what they have been doing to us, and not to mention by how some of us might be secretly benefiting from what they do (nepotism and corruption, to mention a few).

 

Be the change that you want to see. At least do something other than just wishing for it. I was trying to invoke this practical idealism by saying that “we” are “them”. And I am sure you and I are on the same page on this.

 

 

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Mr. Truth-jyu,

 

Thank you very much for the data and the discussion. I had have chance to see similar data and discussion somewhere and I was fully au courant of the possibility and the extent of the permanent migration of Indian nationals (Of  both “Indian” and “Pahadi” origins) to Nepal (from both South and East) when I said I am proud; it was a sort of narcissist remark to note that Nepal is still so desirable country for people from a neighboring country.

 

On a more serious note, I do think that Nepal has not suffered much from this kind of migration at least until now and it still can accommodate a little bit more. Based purely on these assumptions, I am looking at our liberal and lax policy/inertia regarding migration/citizenship from a larger humanitarian and narcissist view for now, or rather until now.

 

As for India-Nepal matter, I am for a “smart” policy and practice rather than a generalized fear and hate to India. I had tried to explain it in one of my old conversations with Ashu (August 2006) and Biswo (Jan 2002). Here it is,

 

On Indophobia:

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=23247#155387

 

My view has not changed. However, I must tell that I am nervously watching what’s going on in Terai. I am unable to conclude anything yet. That's all I can say.

 

Nepe

Amazing Bro,

20 million tourists in five years! I believe it is too optimistic. At least 2.5 million is considered enough for now to boost up the economy.

You have positive thoughts, bravo!

Sorry, responded belatedly.

Just sharing a note I just posted to Nepal Democracy Forum. I am sharing it with Mr. Truth-jyu to relate to my earlier notes on Indiphobia and my nervousness about Terai unrest. I now feel relieved; my nervousness is gone; and I think we are in a pretty good shape to move ahead.

 

Nepe

 

 

From: … …

To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com

Date: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:40 am

Subject: Dear UDMF leaders PART-II

 

> GOVERNMENT, UDMF SEAL A DEAL: AGITATION WITHDRAWN

> http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2008/feb/feb28/news08.php#

>

> Frankly speaking, I was starting to believe that the leaders of

> Madhesi movement are in an unescapable hostage of what I was

> suspecting as their own TEMPTATION and radical Madhesi's PRESSURE for

> some kind of planned pathway for a free state of Madhesi with maximum

> territory possible.

>

> I now believe I was wrong.

>

> Madhesi leaders, eventually with their sensitivity, flexibility and

> pretty much statesmanship, proved their independence, wisdom and

> genuineness of their cause of empowering Madhesi and other

> marginalized groups of Nepal without letting the integrity of the

> country compromised.

>

> I salute them and celebrate this moment of unity, relief, optimism and

> now our focus on the election of Constituent Assembly.

>

> Deepak