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 Prithivi N.Shah.. an Imperialist?

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Posted on 10-07-05 8:04 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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We were taught in school that this charismatic king of gorkha unified a nation that was divided in to fragments of small kingdoms.I do not recall anywhere in the earlier part of Nepal's history about the kingdom being a single nation before its unification.How could this be possible?The present monarch which is a product of the gorkha palace endorses and enforces that belief.The wit and military strength of gorkha king Prithivi infact used the offensive military tactics to declare wars and attack smaller kingdoms to stretch his empire.Gurkha king was an imperialist not a unifier.
May all be aware.
"Sabai lai chetana bhaya"
Rr
Please clarify me on this matter.
 
Posted on 10-07-05 8:15 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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R u Hulaki?? Just curious.
 
Posted on 10-07-05 8:17 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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This is the sad reality rahula. Not only in Nepal, similar past can be found everywhere. The victor vanquished the others and established a nation. I see two options for you:

live with it
or
advocate and fight for a world where no individuals will be ruled by anyone but themselves (no country; no boundaries)

good luck for you on the option two
 
Posted on 10-07-05 8:18 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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R u Hulaki?? Just curious.
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Tyasma ta kunai sankai chaina ni, kaso hulaki from sundhara?
 
Posted on 10-07-05 8:30 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I don't think Prithvi Narayan Shah did some good job. He unified the country by brutally killing many people which many nepalese are still unaware of. Our development process stopped since Shah dynasty. Can anyone tell whether we were even able to maintain our previous devlopment eras like in the period of Licchavis or Mallas? He and his processors completely forget about the country named Nepal and were confined within their palace doing petty politics. Never thought for the country or the people. That's why so many kings were mad. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE IN MANY PARTS OF NEPAL CAN'T ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEIR DISTRICTS ARE REALLY IN NEPAL. OTHERWISE WHY WOULD THEY CALL SAY "GOING TO NEPAL' FOR 'GOING TO KATHMANDU'. SOMEONE, perhaps in history, really need to stand up and do the analysis. We've got many things except this messy politics going around that is hindering our development process. So Let's not only blame the politics, it's our thinking process, cultures n' beliefs which we're carrying with THAT MIGHT BE THE SOLE CAUSE FOR ALL THE SUFFERING OF OUR NATION.
 
Posted on 10-07-05 8:32 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I endorse the idea of individual freedom.Our right to rule ourselvesis the birth right of every human being.Its a tough process Mahisasur.Sometimes you have this feeling that the whole world is a different realm where everything external tries to take that freedom of your thought that is dearly and when you decline to submit your compromises you are confined within the artificial walls of established institution.Well if you fight you emerge victorious.
I am not a hulaki BTW.Highfy.

 
Posted on 10-07-05 9:29 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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If what PrithviBro did to Kirtipur residents are true, then he is fugging aninmal... Well then, can genetics explain Paras's behaviours ????
 
Posted on 10-07-05 9:35 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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What did he do to the Kirtipur residents?
 
Posted on 10-07-05 9:38 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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May be Prithvi was ruthless but think about this. Will there be Nepal if he did not do what he did.
 
Posted on 10-07-05 9:40 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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After the eventual loss to Privi's men, the Kirtipur residents had their noses chopped off... I do not know how true this is though.
 
Posted on 10-07-05 9:42 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I thik its true. Thats what they say in the history class cant remember much. Kirtpur was very resistent so to create the fear that was done
 
Posted on 10-07-05 10:13 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Perceval Landon's history book on Nepal (Perceval's Nepal, 1928?) quotes a christian missionary who visited Kirtipur back then of having seen Kirtipur residents whose nose or ears were cut off.

Perceval Landon was in Nepal on Chandra Shumsher's service to write history.
 
Posted on 10-07-05 10:21 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Who was the good king or ruler of nepal in nepali history????

 
Posted on 10-07-05 10:23 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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dalli dear do not stress yourself bhanne. dhut. key sodchha key.

See where are we and you guess yourself.
 
Posted on 10-07-05 10:25 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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WELL .. UHH... MM..UUUUOOOO... MMM.. WELL..

I got it.. Ram Shah ... That "Nyaya napaya Gorkha janu" dude...
 
Posted on 10-07-05 10:33 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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For highfly,
There would be no Nepal probably but there would be no divided Nepal as it is today either.(Divided in nepalese minds not geographical pieces)Prithivi N. simply tried to implement his idea concentration of power in the hands of one monarch.He was successful for last two hundred years except for the obstacle rana created for 104 years.Given power be distributed equally in the four corners of Nepal in a single nation under a monarchyless democratic system would work better.
Just a thought:)
 
Posted on 10-07-05 10:39 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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rrahula,

Well there is more to it. I think its a good thing that prithvi made a unified Nepal. But its fool like us and the morons leading us who did not know to move ahead with time.

peace
 
Posted on 10-07-05 10:45 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I guess Prithvi just wanted to have more land and people to rule... Unified Nepal was a bi-product...
 
Posted on 10-07-05 10:58 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Is that means no one was good??? What a shame and sad for us!!
 
Posted on 10-07-05 11:06 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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What is more to it?High.Please elaborate.And when did this concept of a mere human being being some sort of incarnation start to build up.we are still in dark ages.Aren't we?
 



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